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Dubious validity of the BJU International review ?

This article relies significantly on that 2015 study to talk about the size of erect penises (the crux of the matter), but most of the measurements reviewed are of flaccid and stretched penises. 20 studies (n = 15 521) are included, of which only four (n = 692) measured erect penises. The two studies that measured both stretched and erect length showed a 2 and 4 inches difference between the measurements, showing that stretched length isn't a reliable proxy for erect length. The authors admit this :

"Limitations: relatively few erect measurements were conducted in a clinical setting and the greatest variability between studies was seen with flaccid stretched length." "This was found by Chen et al. [30] who reported that a minimal tension force of ≈450 g during stretching of the penis was required to reach a full potential erection length and that the stretching forces exerted by a urologist in their clinical setting were experimentally shown to be significantly less than the pressure required. " 2001:861:4B40:C8F0:2811:6845:A0B3:77E9 (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. I think this study is reliable and is the best study we have. Apart from the fact that subjects were not self measured, the average length of 14,160 subjects who had their stretched penis size measured, was nearly identical to the 692 subjects who had their erect penis size measured. It was:

Stretch penis length average: 13.24 cm

Erect penis length average: 13.12 cm

In other words, only about 1 millimeter difference. Therefore Stretched penis length is a very good indicator of erect penis length. Aristotle1991 (talk) 19:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MEDSAY copyediting

Hello, all,

This article needs some copyediting to comply with WP:MEDSAY. The example given in that guideline looks like this:

I think that making these changes will be relatively easy, and I hope that one of the regular editors of this article will be interested in doing this. The result should be an article that is more encyclopedic. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add the following information: "In a study conducted by Park Kwan-Jin and six others from the Seoul National University College of Medicine in 1998, the average erect penis length of Korean men was found to be 14.06±1.49 cm, with an average girth of 12.11±1.1 cm. This study was based on a sample of 287 men." (Source: [1]) Tomath6624 (talk) 13:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For reference, in this document, 'functional length' refers to the BPEL (Bone-Pressed Erect Length) measurement method, which is commonly used worldwide. Tomath6624 (talk) 13:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Where do you want the information to go? Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 04:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wtf is going on with this article?

Saw this in recent edits and thought I was seeing things. Why does there need to be a section about black men and porn? Why does there need to be a photo from an account that got renamed from a grossly inappropriate name and has been posting inappropriate material that has had to be removed? Why does this article even exist? Can we just merge the actually meaningful information into the "penis" article and trash the stupid crap that really serves no intellectual purpose? Please? 216.168.91.9 (talk) 11:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change the example image of a "large penis" to a diagram or normal sized penis. This page is meant to be educational, and is often used to prove the normal size of a penis is approximately 5.3". By using a penis much larger than this, the page loses its educational purpose. 24.237.159.217 (talk) 05:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There is nothing stopping you from suggesting the addition of other images (showing the average and small penises). M.Bitton (talk) 12:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change: An adult penis that is abnormally small but otherwise normally formed is referred to in medicine as a micropenis, with the cutoff usually being defined as around 3 inches (7.6 cm).

to:

An adult penis that is abnormally small but otherwise normally formed is referred to in medicine as a micropenis, usually being defined as around 2.5 SD below the average.

As per Citation 1 on micropenis. Or something akin to that. Of note is that the length in cm specified here is different from that on the micropenis page. 𝙏𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙢𝙖𝙣地形人 (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: I removed the statement from the lead on the basis that it is not in the article. The curious may read the section in this article, or the linked one (which has an unsourced length value so I did not include it here). LizardJr8 (talk) 04:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asian men penis size

this part of the article read as follows:

"Alleged differences in races have led to the creation of sexual myths. A 2005 study reported that "there is no scientific background to support the alleged 'oversized' penis in black people"."

But those studies also found out that the idea that asian men having small penises is also false, so i would want an edit request that reads like this:

"Alleged differences in races have led to the creation of sexual myths. A 2005 study reported that "there is no scientific background to support the alleged 'oversized' penis in black people and that there's also no scientific background to support the alleged 'undersized' penis in asian people"."

would feel more board and accurate. 177.37.150.230 (talk) 16:44, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That source says Interestingly, there is no scientiﬁc background to support the alleged ‘oversized’ penis in black people. Mean penile ﬂaccid length and stretched length recently reported in 123 Korean military men were indeed lower than other values on non-Asian populations. At present, in the absence of any comparative study, these values remain debatable, but the possibility of racial differences in penile size should not be overlooked when investigating patients complaining of a short penis.

This clearly does not support your proposed edit. Do you have a better source? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i'm pretty sure this is not te only source used in the article. Many sources on the same article have claimed that te penis size of asian Men were not smaller than average than that of white or Black Men. The general world-wide male human genital size is 5 inches or 13.50cms. you can look UP the sources in the same article when they talk about east and southeast asian males. They found no real racial Variety in penis size among either black, white or asian males. Urologists don't believe penis size varies with Race either. 2804:29B8:509E:B6F9:3893:C1F9:DD57:4974 (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Korean study cited quite unreliable due to multiple problems, especially the measurement methodology. When looking at the data for Koreans, it's clear the studies by Son are outliers. Although with no clear evidence, when looking at studies using "stretched penile length" without clear clarification of stretching to the maximum, extremely low averages seem to occur quite commonly. A good example is Sengezer 2002 , where the stretched penile length avg. is 3.54in., yet the erect length avg. is 5.01in. Also in Takure 2021, where the avg. stretched length of Nigerian men under 50 is 4.17in., but the average for men over 50 is 5.55in. Surely, we can't take these averages for granted. I believe there are more studies that highlight the possible inaccuracy of stretched length measurement, especially when not specifically stretching to the max. To state that there's "no scientific background to support the alleged 'undersized' penis in asian people" may not even need a source, although I'm not too sure so I'll look into it. Way6t (talk) 22:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Too long

Not a joke. This article is way too long. It’s not necessary to detail every single study that has ever been done on penis size. These should be summarised and cited. There is a lot of repetition and separate sections on eg. Correlation with hand size, with height, with shoe size… are really excessive. Btljs (talk) 07:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As-is, the article is about 5700 words. According to WP:TOOBIG, it is not very large ("Length alone does not justify division or trimming"). Викидим (talk) 08:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, but repetition does - or should. Btljs (talk) 15:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, many sections can use a rewrite based on review articles from the peer-reviewed publications, not a piecemeal combination of peer-reviewed research on narrow topics and popular books. I have added three reviews to the list of literature for other editors to comment. Викидим (talk) 18:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]